ETSU @ #15 Furman Sept. 28th

[Affirm]

They sure come to Asheville for the SoCon BB tournament games. I think ETSU may well travel well.

I give them credit for 9K + at football. impressive, though they have 11K undergraduate students. As we have 2600 or so and bring 7K last week it's a weird data point. Their crowd is bigger but per student population we bring a lot more. Honestly, per football purposes, I wish we had about 5K students so our crowds would have 1 or 2K more. Students can get loud when they are into it

I would like to know what %-age of 2600 actually attend. 50%? 25%?
The band and team and cheerleaders would be about 8%, I guess.

[DungeonRealm]

Here are some really cool fun Facts that I posted on AGS to show how Furman athletics are back to punching well above their weight in football and hoops:

1)
There are currently only 2 teams in the FCS Top 25 football poll that appeared in the AP Top 25 Basketball poll last year:
Villanova and Furman
And Furman beat Villanova last year in hoops


2)
Furman is the Smallest school in the current FCS football Top 25 at around 2,700 students
As a matter of fact, both SoCon schools Furman and Citadel are the 2 smallest schools currently ranked in the FCS football poll, the 3rd smallest school Nicholls St. is roughly twice the size of Furman or Citadel

[Flagman]

They sure come to Asheville for the SoCon BB tournament games. I think ETSU may well travel well.

I give them credit for 9K + at football. impressive, though they have 11K undergraduate students. As we have 2600 or so and bring 7K last week it's a weird data point. Their crowd is bigger but per student population we bring a lot more. Honestly, per football purposes, I wish we had about 5K students so our crowds would have 1 or 2K more. Students can get loud when they are into it

I would like to know what %-age of 2600 actually attend. 50%? 25%?
The band and team and cheerleaders would be about 8%, I guess.

Cheerleaders and dance team - 25
Football team - 95 (if everyone dresses)
Band - 75
General Student Body - maybe 200 (I'm probably too optimistic)
I remember many years ago while at an athletic department meeting to discuss gameday matters, they hope for 10% (250). Not sure we get that. At parents weekend the student section was practically empty. I'm not even going to mention post-halftime. But that aspect (2nd half attendance) is systemic at every school.

[The Jackal]

They sure come to Asheville for the SoCon BB tournament games. I think ETSU may well travel well.

I give them credit for 9K + at football. impressive, though they have 11K undergraduate students. As we have 2600 or so and bring 7K last week it's a weird data point. Their crowd is bigger but per student population we bring a lot more. Honestly, per football purposes, I wish we had about 5K students so our crowds would have 1 or 2K more. Students can get loud when they are into it

I would like to know what %-age of 2600 actually attend. 50%? 25%?
The band and team and cheerleaders would be about 8%, I guess.

Cheerleaders and dance team - 25
Football team - 95 (if everyone dresses)
Band - 75
General Student Body - maybe 200 (I'm probably too optimistic)
I remember many years ago while at an athletic department meeting to discuss gameday matters, they hope for 10% (250). Not sure we get that. At parents weekend the student section was practically empty. I'm not even going to mention post-halftime. But that aspect (2nd half attendance) is systemic at every school.

I've said this a bunch, but one of the biggest negatives to having 10 years of bad football is that Furman lost a generation of potential fans.

There's no question that virtually every school is seeing a decline in attendance. There're a lot of reasons for that.

[DungeonRealm]

Apparently last years ETSU comeback was their biggest in school history

[The Jackal]

Furman lead by 21 points midway through the third quarter. Not sure if that's a Furman record, but I'm sure it was a notable one.

Looking back at that game, over its last 5 possessions, Furman managed 7 total yards, two first downs, and three punts.

You can forget about that happening again.

[DungeonRealm]

Interesting fun fact list posted on AGS, here are the school ages for teams currently ranked in FCS top 25:

1743 University of Delaware
1746 Princeton University
1826 Furman University
1842 Villanova University
1842 The Citadel
1857 Illinois State University
1865 University of Maine
1866 Towson University
1876 University of Northern Iowa
1882 Eastern Washington University
1883 Jacksonville State University
1889 South Dakota State University
1889 Weber State University
1889 Elon University
1890 North Dakota State University
1891 North Carolina A&T University
1893 Montana State University
1893 University of Montana
1905 University of California - Davis
1907 University of Central Arkansas
1908 James Madison University
1908 Youngstown State University
1925 Southeastern Louisiana University
1948 Nicholls State University
1963 Kennesaw State University

[gofurman]

Furman lead by 21 points midway through the third quarter. Not sure if that's a Furman record, but I'm sure it was a notable one.

Looking back at that game, over its last 5 possessions, Furman managed 7 total yards, two first downs, and three punts.

You can forget about that happening again.

right - it wasn't just the POINTS , in this case it was a matter of having a lead so really all we needed was some first downs... FIVE possesions for 7 yards - I had forgotten it was that bad. Good stat Jackal! If we get 5 or 6 first downs total over the last 5 possessions we probably win.

[gofurman]

They sure come to Asheville for the SoCon BB tournament games. I think ETSU may well travel well.

I give them credit for 9K + at football. impressive, though they have 11K undergraduate students. As we have 2600 or so and bring 7K last week it's a weird data point. Their crowd is bigger but per student population we bring a lot more. Honestly, per football purposes, I wish we had about 5K students so our crowds would have 1 or 2K more. Students can get loud when they are into it

I would like to know what %-age of 2600 actually attend. 50%? 25%?
The band and team and cheerleaders would be about 8%, I guess.

Cheerleaders and dance team - 25
Football team - 95 (if everyone dresses)
Band - 75
General Student Body - maybe 200 (I'm probably too optimistic)
I remember many years ago while at an athletic department meeting to discuss gameday matters, they hope for 10% (250). Not sure we get that. At parents weekend the student section was practically empty. I'm not even going to mention post-halftime. But that aspect (2nd half attendance) is systemic at every school.

Flag, you have a good point. I guess a comp to my 5/6k is Elon - they have 6K students undergrad. When you all went to our reg season game there (playoff was thanksgiving so not that one) last year how many Elon students would you say they had there ??

Curious. Though I think if we had 5/6K students we would get at least 500-600 students in attendance just like we get 200 or so from our 2700. Students are the loudest crowd if you can get them involved..typically.

Interesting - I don't really do basketball as much... how many of our students would you all say come to our basketball games?


(related - just saw this on website: Greenville, S.C. – Kimani Smith and Robbie Robinson netted goals to lead fourth-ranked Clemson to a 2-0 victory over Furman in non-conference men's soccer action Tuesday evening before a crowd of 2,712 at Stone Stadium. "We were disappointed not to get a better result, but pleased to play in front of a great crowd. The atmosphere tonight that our fans created, especially our students, was outstanding."

[DungeonRealm]

Looking at the ETSU attendance, they should honestly be leading the SoCon in attendance each year and traveling well when you look at their enrollment being nearly 15,000 students, that is by far the largest school now in the SoCon, I believe WCU is around 11k and UTC is around 10k

[gofurman]

Looking at the ETSU attendance, they should honestly be leading the SoCon in attendance each year and traveling well when you look at their enrollment being nearly 15,000 students, that is by far the largest school now in the SoCon, I believe WCU is around 11k and UTC is around 10k

I think ETSU is about 11K undergrad and 14K total? could be wrong but google had that

[gofurman]

game notes are out: (that Mercer win streak on page one should say W3, not W2

https://furmanpaladins.com/documents/20 ... maries.pdf

Changes to lineup - Zach Peterson replaces injured Luke Shiflett (verbatim)
Roberto in at RB for Maples.

Hope Maples and Shiflett heal up! Congrats to Zach and Roberto for stepping up when called !

Stokes back to start at NG though it appears those two (Hodge and Stokes rotate a lot)

Agbenou moves in for injured Dillon Vann at OLB; Jack Owen to back up Perryman for Agbenou - hope Porter gets some run as he seems very athletic

Kearse should be back as they list him as a starter over Trapp

[DungeonRealm]

Looking at the ETSU attendance, they should honestly be leading the SoCon in attendance each year and traveling well when you look at their enrollment being nearly 15,000 students, that is by far the largest school now in the SoCon, I believe WCU is around 11k and UTC is around 10k

I think ETSU is about 11K undergrad and 14K total? could be wrong but google had that

Yeah you are correct, looks to be 11,300 undergrad and 3,000 grad

[The Jackal]

game notes are out: (that Mercer win streak on page one should say W3, not W2

https://furmanpaladins.com/documents/20 ... maries.pdf

Changes to lineup - Zach Peterson replaces injured Luke Shiflett (verbatim)
Roberto in at RB for Maples.

Hope Maples and Shiflett heal up! Congrats to Zach and Roberto for stepping up when called !

Stokes back to start at NG though it appears those two (Hodge and Stokes rotate a lot)

Agbenou moves in for injured Dillon Vann at OLB; Jack Owen to back up Perryman for Agbenou - hope Porter gets some run as he seems very athletic

Kearse should be back as they list him as a starter over Trapp

To me, the most interesting thing in there is that Parker Stokes notched his first start against Mercer - his 27th game.

That's no knock on Stokes, who has been a very productive player at a position where we are going to constantly rotate personnel.

[MNORM]

They sure come to Asheville for the SoCon BB tournament games. I think ETSU may well travel well.

I give them credit for 9K + at football. impressive, though they have 11K undergraduate students. As we have 2600 or so and bring 7K last week it's a weird data point. Their crowd is bigger but per student population we bring a lot more. Honestly, per football purposes, I wish we had about 5K students so our crowds would have 1 or 2K more. Students can get loud when they are into it

I would like to know what %-age of 2600 actually attend. 50%? 25%?
The band and team and cheerleaders would be about 8%, I guess.

Cheerleaders and dance team - 25
Football team - 95 (if everyone dresses)
Band - 75
General Student Body - maybe 200 (I'm probably too optimistic)
I remember many years ago while at an athletic department meeting to discuss gameday matters, they hope for 10% (250). Not sure we get that. At parents weekend the student section was practically empty. I'm not even going to mention post-halftime. But that aspect (2nd half attendance) is systemic at every school.

There were at least 30-40 students sitting with their parents just in my little area in section 2. Family Weekend is always odd in that students tend to spend time with their parents and not in the student section.